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I will try and keep this up to date for a couple of months, and if anyone has any questions, feel free to post them and I will try and better explain my rational for doing something. My hope is that we can teach more owners how to develop their teams, in turn it will lead to better competition and more long term owners. So please feel free to ask any questions here.
 
I will try and keep this up to date for a couple of months, and if anyone has any questions, feel free to post them and I will try and better explain my rational for doing something. My hope is that we can teach more owners how to develop their teams, in turn it will lead to better competition and more long term owners. So please feel free to ask any questions here.
  
  Michael, please explain to me what you mean by saying that you don't like signing relievers (closers) to Type 1 contracts because that relegates them to middle relief. Thanks.  
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'''Michael, please explain to me what you mean by saying that you don't like signing relievers (closers) to Type 1 contracts because that relegates them to middle relief. Thanks.'''
  
 
Signing relievers (closers and set up) to type 1 contracts. A type 1 contract only allows for half the performance units that would otherwise get and you also pay the salary when the player is injured. So, if say Rob Nen was my set up, and he recorded 25 holds, he would only produce 10 units for my team.
 
Signing relievers (closers and set up) to type 1 contracts. A type 1 contract only allows for half the performance units that would otherwise get and you also pay the salary when the player is injured. So, if say Rob Nen was my set up, and he recorded 25 holds, he would only produce 10 units for my team.
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However signed to a type 3, he would produce 40 units to my team. A difference of of 30 units. On a type 1 six season contract you will sign him for 32 units a season, on a type 3 six season contract you will sign him for 46 units a season. A difference of 14 units. So really, by signing your closer/set-up man to a type one contract your taking away at least 16 units away from yourself each season.  You gain even more, if your set up man reaches 40 holds or 40 saves on a type 3 contract. The holds and saves are two categories where you can almost count on getting enough performance to reach these milestones that it seems foolish to throw away the units. There is an argument that you could sign relievers to a type 2 contract, however you give up the ability to double the performance units. I like to have the flexibility on switching up relievers at the beginning of each season depending on performance, so I usually sign all my relievers to type 3 contracts to keep it simple, unless I am sure that I will not want to use them in the closer or set up role, but never to a type one contract.
 
However signed to a type 3, he would produce 40 units to my team. A difference of of 30 units. On a type 1 six season contract you will sign him for 32 units a season, on a type 3 six season contract you will sign him for 46 units a season. A difference of 14 units. So really, by signing your closer/set-up man to a type one contract your taking away at least 16 units away from yourself each season.  You gain even more, if your set up man reaches 40 holds or 40 saves on a type 3 contract. The holds and saves are two categories where you can almost count on getting enough performance to reach these milestones that it seems foolish to throw away the units. There is an argument that you could sign relievers to a type 2 contract, however you give up the ability to double the performance units. I like to have the flexibility on switching up relievers at the beginning of each season depending on performance, so I usually sign all my relievers to type 3 contracts to keep it simple, unless I am sure that I will not want to use them in the closer or set up role, but never to a type one contract.
  
  So, what do you suggest for OEB contracts, Michael? I know that you and I have disagreed in the past about certain OEB's being on type 1 and 2, for less than 3 seasons, on your team...and I sign EVERY OEB to a type 3, full contract length (no release fee, heck yeah!).
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'''So, what do you suggest for OEB contracts, Michael? I know that you and I have disagreed in the past about certain OEB's being on type 1 and 2, for less than 3 seasons, on your team...and I sign EVERY OEB to a type 3, full contract length (no release fee, heck yeah!).
  Also, for pitching contracts, you have to look at the amount of discount on ANY long term contract. If the discount can be made in performance units in any ONE year of that contract, then a type 3 is a MUST. I do agree with Michael on the Set-Up and Closer roles being type 3 (I believe I suggested that all RP should be type 3 a while ago on Yahoo IM...), SSP always get type 3, and ANY SP that has a PV of basically under 135 will get a type 3 contract...because VERY FEW ultra premium superstars have a PV less than this number.
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  You have to keep in mind that a type 3 contract has NO RELEASE FEE, and you don't pay the player when they are injured! If your team is to have any long term success, you can't throw away units on release fees every season, because you drafted someone better...
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Also, for pitching contracts, you have to look at the amount of discount on ANY long term contract. If the discount can be made in performance units in any ONE year of that contract, then a type 3 is a MUST. I do agree with Michael on the Set-Up and Closer roles being type 3 (I believe I suggested that all RP should be type 3 a while ago on Yahoo IM...), SSP always get type 3, and ANY SP that has a PV of basically under 135 will get a type 3 contract...because VERY FEW ultra premium superstars have a PV less than this number.
  Bottom line, as new owners trying to build teams, GO SLOW, read the Trading Rules, the User Guide, and seek a mentor ... but keep in mind, that YOUR team is YOUR team, no two teams will EVER have the same personnel or the exact same opponents, or schedule...
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  By posting here, I am not, nor will I ever say that I have the most unique ideas or that I know everything that there is to know in NSB! IF I didn't constantly learn something in NSB, I'd get bored...comin' up on two years now, with 11 teams in the stable, 7 Championships to date, some awesome lookin' teams that just don't perform, some iffy teams that over-achieve...
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You have to keep in mind that a type 3 contract has NO RELEASE FEE, and you don't pay the player when they are injured! If your team is to have any long term success, you can't throw away units on release fees every season, because you drafted someone better...
  Nostalgia Sim Baseball to me is just plain fun...yes, it's a numbers game, and if numbers aren't your thing, you rarely will win the big ones...but you'll get your share of fun and comraderie...
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  Off the top of my head I can probably name at least 10 pitchers that I will try to draft every time that have a PV lower than 135 that I'd LOVE to have on any staff. I know where my favorite regulars and OEB's are located (era wise), getting them on your team is the hard part...but also part of the fun...trading for them... - Dru Himes
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Bottom line, as new owners trying to build teams, GO SLOW, read the Trading Rules, the User Guide, and seek a mentor ... but keep in mind, that YOUR team is YOUR team, no two teams will EVER have the same personnel or the exact same opponents, or schedule...
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By posting here, I am not, nor will I ever say that I have the most unique ideas or that I know everything that there is to know in NSB! IF I didn't constantly learn something in NSB, I'd get bored...comin' up on two years now, with 11 teams in the stable, 7 Championships to date, some awesome lookin' teams that just don't perform, some iffy teams that over-achieve...
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Nostalgia Sim Baseball to me is just plain fun...yes, it's a numbers game, and if numbers aren't your thing, you rarely will win the big ones...but you'll get your share of fun and comraderie...
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Off the top of my head I can probably name at least 10 pitchers that I will try to draft every time that have a PV lower than 135 that I'd LOVE to have on any staff. I know where my favorite regulars and OEB's are located (era wise), getting them on your team is the hard part...but also part of the fun...trading for them...
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Dru Himes'''
  
 
Dru, You make some good points. As far OEB's, generally speaking they get signed to a type 3 contract. I don't have a cut and dry formula for signing my OEB players. In the case with this team, I have Greg Goosen and Jose Tartabull. Both are signed to type 3 three year contract. Before I sign my OEB players I always look at the next draft pool, to see if my needs can be meet in the next draft, if so the OEB players will be signed to a type 3 three season contract. However, I rank each OEB, some OEB players will get signed to a type 2 contract depending on their skill level and what I will use them for. There are some OEB players that I will sign to a type 2 contract, when that situation comes up I will post on here for the others to learn from. Sorry, I don't have a more definitive answer for you Dru. I'm sure signing up for the beginner leagues will help you develop your skills as an owner.
 
Dru, You make some good points. As far OEB's, generally speaking they get signed to a type 3 contract. I don't have a cut and dry formula for signing my OEB players. In the case with this team, I have Greg Goosen and Jose Tartabull. Both are signed to type 3 three year contract. Before I sign my OEB players I always look at the next draft pool, to see if my needs can be meet in the next draft, if so the OEB players will be signed to a type 3 three season contract. However, I rank each OEB, some OEB players will get signed to a type 2 contract depending on their skill level and what I will use them for. There are some OEB players that I will sign to a type 2 contract, when that situation comes up I will post on here for the others to learn from. Sorry, I don't have a more definitive answer for you Dru. I'm sure signing up for the beginner leagues will help you develop your skills as an owner.
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One thing that I will say, for an owner that is just coming into the league, do not trade away your first round draft picks for units, one you don't need the units as badly as you need that pick, two the owner that takes that first round pick will surely get the benefit of that player drafted, more than you will get the benefit of those units. Once again, it is extremely foolish to trade away a first round pick when trying to build a team.
 
One thing that I will say, for an owner that is just coming into the league, do not trade away your first round draft picks for units, one you don't need the units as badly as you need that pick, two the owner that takes that first round pick will surely get the benefit of that player drafted, more than you will get the benefit of those units. Once again, it is extremely foolish to trade away a first round pick when trying to build a team.
  
  Great thread. Thanks Michael for the thread and the tips, and Dru for your insight also but...Thanks for taking so long to start it I picked up 6 RP's in Jackie Robinson’s  league and I really like these guys so I already signed them to a type 1 contract .. If I would have seen a thread like this earlier, I would have signed them to a type 3 for sure...You know, guys like Hoffman and Lee Smith  - Desperado
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'''Great thread. Thanks Michael for the thread and the tips, and Dru for your insight also but...Thanks for taking so long to start it I picked up 6 RP's in Jackie Robinson’s  league and I really like these guys so I already signed them to a type 1 contract .. If I would have seen a thread like this earlier, I would have signed them to a type 3 for sure...You know, guys like Hoffman and Lee Smith  - Desperado'''
  
 
More insight on what I'm doing now. The first set just ended, really my record does not matter at this point. My starting pitchers did well and all look to poised for good seasons, which is a nice feeling at any point in the season. Also what is very important to do is try and figure out which season each player is on. Snuffy Stirnweiss is in the Yellow for me, which is fantastic, there isn't any depth to my batter roster, so having Snuffy in the Yellow means he is on a season with plenty of plate appearences, so he is on either his 44 or 45 season, which bodes well, because they are his best two seasons.  Also, it means that I don't need to find a bench player that has alot of plate appearences. It just saves a headache for later in the season. Now, I will continue keeping my roster thin until the waiver wire opens and will only look to add depth if my team has a solid record. However I will be looking to find a gem out of the OTF later in the season, hopefully one appears.  For now it's a waiting game, this first month is a great chance to see how my players are going to perform the rest of the season.
 
More insight on what I'm doing now. The first set just ended, really my record does not matter at this point. My starting pitchers did well and all look to poised for good seasons, which is a nice feeling at any point in the season. Also what is very important to do is try and figure out which season each player is on. Snuffy Stirnweiss is in the Yellow for me, which is fantastic, there isn't any depth to my batter roster, so having Snuffy in the Yellow means he is on a season with plenty of plate appearences, so he is on either his 44 or 45 season, which bodes well, because they are his best two seasons.  Also, it means that I don't need to find a bench player that has alot of plate appearences. It just saves a headache for later in the season. Now, I will continue keeping my roster thin until the waiver wire opens and will only look to add depth if my team has a solid record. However I will be looking to find a gem out of the OTF later in the season, hopefully one appears.  For now it's a waiting game, this first month is a great chance to see how my players are going to perform the rest of the season.
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Just a quick blurb on what is going through my mind as I build this team.
 
Just a quick blurb on what is going through my mind as I build this team.
  
  Michael - This is a very helpful thread for new owners. Bravo to you for giving a step-by-step on your thinking here. You have an approach which, if followed, will result in financial solvency and a winning team. I highly recommend that new owners observe what you are writing here. In NDB, the most one can do is get into a good POSITION to win a championship. There are variables that are quite difficult to control, so one is never quite assured of anything. However, I can safely say that an owner will almost never win a championship if they have no strategy, and though there are multiple strategies that can lead to championships, this one is sound. Again, many thanks. Craig
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'''Michael - This is a very helpful thread for new owners. Bravo to you for giving a step-by-step on your thinking here. You have an approach which, if followed, will result in financial solvency and a winning team. I highly recommend that new owners observe what you are writing here. In NDB, the most one can do is get into a good POSITION to win a championship. There are variables that are quite difficult to control, so one is never quite assured of anything. However, I can safely say that an owner will almost never win a championship if they have no strategy, and though there are multiple strategies that can lead to championships, this one is sound. Again, many thanks. Craig'''
  
 
Made what looks to be an unnecessary pick up off the waiver wire and on top of that I did not write down which season I picked him for. RP Terry Fox, I'm hoping that I followed my notes and picked up his 1961 season. The reason for the pick up is to ensure nobody else gets him and if my team starts to falter try and use him as trade bait. I have a theory that you can't enough great pitching, until I'm proven wrong I will favor pitching over hitting.
 
Made what looks to be an unnecessary pick up off the waiver wire and on top of that I did not write down which season I picked him for. RP Terry Fox, I'm hoping that I followed my notes and picked up his 1961 season. The reason for the pick up is to ensure nobody else gets him and if my team starts to falter try and use him as trade bait. I have a theory that you can't enough great pitching, until I'm proven wrong I will favor pitching over hitting.
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In the OTF, I have Roger Bresnahan, he is a fantastic defensive catcher, has a high OBA, his biggest down side is lack of plate appearance and he wants a signing bonus. Normally I would pass on him because of this, however he could be a very nice piece to help build a team around, so I will bid 20 units for him and see what happens. If he does agree, he will be a nice addition, however, it is very important not to spend too much getting a player like Bresnahan, players like Cobb, Speaker, Walsh, Hamilton, Delahanty, etc... deserve the big bonuses.
 
In the OTF, I have Roger Bresnahan, he is a fantastic defensive catcher, has a high OBA, his biggest down side is lack of plate appearance and he wants a signing bonus. Normally I would pass on him because of this, however he could be a very nice piece to help build a team around, so I will bid 20 units for him and see what happens. If he does agree, he will be a nice addition, however, it is very important not to spend too much getting a player like Bresnahan, players like Cobb, Speaker, Walsh, Hamilton, Delahanty, etc... deserve the big bonuses.
  
  Michael, Great INFO. In bidding on OTF players I always start at 10 units, get my response the next packet and then plot my strategy for round 2. I agree with Michael save the BIG BONUSES for the GREATS. I have never paid more than 50 units on any OTF player yet!! - Jim
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'''Michael, Great INFO. In bidding on OTF players I always start at 10 units, get my response the next packet and then plot my strategy for round 2. I agree with Michael save the BIG BONUSES for the GREATS. I have never paid more than 50 units on any OTF player yet!! - Jim'''
  
 
Life is pretty good as owner of the Big Train Knights, we currently hold the best record in the league, it can't last without depth. The important thing to keep in mind is not to overspend just for one season of added depth. There are plenty of opportunities to add depth in the draft or possibly trades. A few players were put up on trading block by other teams, which is to be expected, this is the chance to try and get quality players from teams in need. One player on the block is Trevor Hoffman, who in my opinion is the only player worth trying to obtain. However, beign that the supplemental draft pool has so many great relievers, you cannot try to spend to much to get a player that is only above average.  I offered a mere 20 units, the owner did not want to accept the offer but that is okay. I figured everything out and I would guess that Hoffman has his 2005 season, so he woin't do any damage to opposing teams all season long. Now the owner could drop him from his roster or possibly find another owner who is willing to part with more units. Being that we can see the next draft pool, all relievers lose trading value, because there are so many great options. You never want to spend more than you have to get a guy that will only help you moderately. It is highly unlikely that Hoffman's value will exceed 20 units in the short run, unless he is plugged into a closer or set up role. I will say this again, because it is extremely important not to overspend on acquiring players when building from the bottom up.
 
Life is pretty good as owner of the Big Train Knights, we currently hold the best record in the league, it can't last without depth. The important thing to keep in mind is not to overspend just for one season of added depth. There are plenty of opportunities to add depth in the draft or possibly trades. A few players were put up on trading block by other teams, which is to be expected, this is the chance to try and get quality players from teams in need. One player on the block is Trevor Hoffman, who in my opinion is the only player worth trying to obtain. However, beign that the supplemental draft pool has so many great relievers, you cannot try to spend to much to get a player that is only above average.  I offered a mere 20 units, the owner did not want to accept the offer but that is okay. I figured everything out and I would guess that Hoffman has his 2005 season, so he woin't do any damage to opposing teams all season long. Now the owner could drop him from his roster or possibly find another owner who is willing to part with more units. Being that we can see the next draft pool, all relievers lose trading value, because there are so many great options. You never want to spend more than you have to get a guy that will only help you moderately. It is highly unlikely that Hoffman's value will exceed 20 units in the short run, unless he is plugged into a closer or set up role. I will say this again, because it is extremely important not to overspend on acquiring players when building from the bottom up.

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