Talk:Version 7.0 - Revision history

Cslane: /* October 6, 2021 - Josh Gibson Coming to Nostalgia Sim Baseball */

2021-10-07T00:20:58Z

October 6, 2021 - Josh Gibson Coming to Nostalgia Sim Baseball

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	== October 6, 2021 - Josh Gibson Coming to Nostalgia Sim Baseball ==		== October 6, 2021 - Josh Gibson Coming to Nostalgia Sim Baseball ==

	I've got the basic stats in place for the Negro Leagues. Gobs of work to do yet to make them playable, but I thought I'd post an image of the ~~fabled catcher~~.		I've got the basic stats in place for the Negro Leagues. Gobs of work to do yet to make them playable, but I thought I'd post an image of a couple star players. Note the Career (CAR) line that now sits at the bottom of the historical stats. Career lines will be set to 225 Innings Pitched and 625 Plate Appearances.
	josh_gibson.JPG\|Josh ~~Gobson~~		[[File:josh_gibson.JPG\|1100px\|thumb\|center\|Josh Gibson]]
	willie_foster.JPG\|Willie Foster		[[File:willie_foster.JPG\|1100px\|thumb\|center\|Willie Foster]]

Cslane: /* October 6, 2021 - Josh Gibson Coming to Nostalgia Sim Baseball */

2021-10-07T00:16:14Z

October 6, 2021 - Josh Gibson Coming to Nostalgia Sim Baseball

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	== October 6, 2021 - Josh Gibson Coming to Nostalgia Sim Baseball ==		== October 6, 2021 - Josh Gibson Coming to Nostalgia Sim Baseball ==

	I've got the basic stats in place for the Negro Leagues. ~~Gob~~		I've got the basic stats in place for the Negro Leagues. Gobs of work to do yet to make them playable, but I thought I'd post an image of the fabled catcher.
	~~<gallery>~~
	josh_gibson.JPG\|Josh Gobson		josh_gibson.JPG\|Josh Gobson
	willie_foster.JPG\|Willie Foster		willie_foster.JPG\|Willie Foster
	~~</gallery>~~
	~~s of work to do yet to make them playable, but I thought I'd post an image of the fabled catcher.~~

Cslane: /* October 6, 2021 - Josh Gibson and Willie Foster */

2021-10-07T00:14:02Z

October 6, 2021 - Josh Gibson and Willie Foster

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	I've got the basic stats in place for the Negro Leagues. Gob		I've got the basic stats in place for the Negro Leagues. Gob
	<gallery>		<gallery>
	~~Example~~.~~jpg~~\|~~Caption1~~		josh_gibson.JPG\|Josh Gobson
	~~Example~~.~~jpg~~\|~~Caption2~~		willie_foster.JPG\|Willie Foster
	</gallery>		</gallery>
	s of work to do yet to make them playable, but I thought I'd post an image of the fabled catcher.		s of work to do yet to make them playable, but I thought I'd post an image of the fabled catcher.

Cslane: /* October 6, 2021 - Josh Gibson Coming to Nostalgia Sim Baseball */ new section

2021-10-07T00:10:06Z

October 6, 2021 - Josh Gibson Coming to Nostalgia Sim Baseball: new section

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	As you might remember from an earlier post, V7.0 will come with a career database. Every Negro League player will have a weighted career line of historical stats published. This is necessary in order to deal fairly with the Negro Leagues because those players don't reach the defined thresholds for drafting pools. When you go to sign a player you will have the option of signing a "career contract" for TWO FULL seasons weighted to 625 plate appearances for batters and 225 IP for pitchers. Or, you can sign players for longer than two seasons and get the usual ups and downs of seasonal performance with lesser quantity of play. Using this method we can ensure that Negro League players can play on a full-time basis and not be relegated largely to Odds and Ends pools.		As you might remember from an earlier post, V7.0 will come with a career database. Every Negro League player will have a weighted career line of historical stats published. This is necessary in order to deal fairly with the Negro Leagues because those players don't reach the defined thresholds for drafting pools. When you go to sign a player you will have the option of signing a "career contract" for TWO FULL seasons weighted to 625 plate appearances for batters and 225 IP for pitchers. Or, you can sign players for longer than two seasons and get the usual ups and downs of seasonal performance with lesser quantity of play. Using this method we can ensure that Negro League players can play on a full-time basis and not be relegated largely to Odds and Ends pools.

			== October 6, 2021 - Josh Gibson Coming to Nostalgia Sim Baseball ==

			I've got the basic stats in place for the Negro Leagues. Gob
			<gallery>
			Example.jpg\|Caption1
			Example.jpg\|Caption2
			</gallery>
			s of work to do yet to make them playable, but I thought I'd post an image of the fabled catcher.

Cslane: /* September 26, 2021- Career Contracts */ new section

2021-09-27T00:05:57Z

September 26, 2021- Career Contracts: new section

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	# EWL - East West League (1932)		# EWL - East West League (1932)
	# ANL - American Negro League (1929)		# ANL - American Negro League (1929)

			== September 26, 2021- Career Contracts ==

			As work continues on v7.0 and the inclusion of Negro Leagues, decisions have to be made in order to code my way to the finish line. One decision I made this week will change the way we sign contracts. So, I wanted to say a thing or two about it by way of anticipation.

			As you might remember from an earlier post, V7.0 will come with a career database. Every Negro League player will have a weighted career line of historical stats published. This is necessary in order to deal fairly with the Negro Leagues because those players don't reach the defined thresholds for drafting pools. When you go to sign a player you will have the option of signing a "career contract" for TWO FULL seasons weighted to 625 plate appearances for batters and 225 IP for pitchers. Or, you can sign players for longer than two seasons and get the usual ups and downs of seasonal performance with lesser quantity of play. Using this method we can ensure that Negro League players can play on a full-time basis and not be relegated largely to Odds and Ends pools.

Cslane: /* September 13, 2021 - More New Leagues Coming in Version 7 */

2021-09-13T14:04:14Z

September 13, 2021 - More New Leagues Coming in Version 7

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	As of today I am leaning toward a model of "full integration." That means that these players will appear in our traditional pools and not be treated as a special case (e.g., candidates for Auxiliary Rosters or a special waivers collection). I am considering making the BEST of them perpetual free agents. More anon.		As of today I am leaning toward a model of "full integration." That means that these players will appear in our traditional pools and not be treated as a special case (e.g., candidates for Auxiliary Rosters or a special waivers collection). I am considering making the BEST of them perpetual free agents. More anon.

	== September 13, 2021 - More New Leagues Coming in Version 7 ==		=== September 13, 2021 - More New Leagues Coming in Version 7 ===

	Beyond the 7 "Negro Leagues," we will be expanding the NL back to its inception in 1876. From the start NSB made 1893 the cutoff for old-timers because it was the first year of the 60' 6" mound distance from home plate. However, the recent addition of Dead-Ball-Era-only leagues has put some strain on player supply and stimulated further thought about this limit.		Beyond the 7 "Negro Leagues," we will be expanding the NL back to its inception in 1876. From the start NSB made 1893 the cutoff for old-timers because it was the first year of the 60' 6" mound distance from home plate. However, the recent addition of Dead-Ball-Era-only leagues has put some strain on player supply and stimulated further thought about this limit.

Cslane: /* More New Leagues Coming in Version 7 */

2021-09-13T14:03:58Z

More New Leagues Coming in Version 7

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	As of today I am leaning toward a model of "full integration." That means that these players will appear in our traditional pools and not be treated as a special case (e.g., candidates for Auxiliary Rosters or a special waivers collection). I am considering making the BEST of them perpetual free agents. More anon.		As of today I am leaning toward a model of "full integration." That means that these players will appear in our traditional pools and not be treated as a special case (e.g., candidates for Auxiliary Rosters or a special waivers collection). I am considering making the BEST of them perpetual free agents. More anon.

	== More New Leagues Coming in Version 7 ==		== September 13, 2021 - More New Leagues Coming in Version 7 ==

	Beyond the 7 "Negro Leagues," we will be expanding the NL back to its inception in 1876. From the start NSB made 1893 the cutoff for old-timers because it was the first year of the 60' 6" mound distance from home plate. However, the recent addition of Dead-Ball-Era-only leagues has put some strain on player supply and stimulated further thought about this limit.		Beyond the 7 "Negro Leagues," we will be expanding the NL back to its inception in 1876. From the start NSB made 1893 the cutoff for old-timers because it was the first year of the 60' 6" mound distance from home plate. However, the recent addition of Dead-Ball-Era-only leagues has put some strain on player supply and stimulated further thought about this limit.

Cslane: /* More New Leagues Coming in Version 7 */ new section

2021-09-13T14:03:19Z

More New Leagues Coming in Version 7: new section

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	As of today I am leaning toward a model of "full integration." That means that these players will appear in our traditional pools and not be treated as a special case (e.g., candidates for Auxiliary Rosters or a special waivers collection). I am considering making the BEST of them perpetual free agents. More anon.		As of today I am leaning toward a model of "full integration." That means that these players will appear in our traditional pools and not be treated as a special case (e.g., candidates for Auxiliary Rosters or a special waivers collection). I am considering making the BEST of them perpetual free agents. More anon.

			== More New Leagues Coming in Version 7 ==

			Beyond the 7 "Negro Leagues," we will be expanding the NL back to its inception in 1876. From the start NSB made 1893 the cutoff for old-timers because it was the first year of the 60' 6" mound distance from home plate. However, the recent addition of Dead-Ball-Era-only leagues has put some strain on player supply and stimulated further thought about this limit.

			So we are adding all players from 1871 - 1892 to the system. This means that the NA (National Association), AA( American Association), UA (Union Association) and PL (Players League) all must be added, each with their own normalizations. We are also adding players from the FL (Federal League of 1914-1915). This data will enrich the player pools of the Dead Ball era.

			Speaking of eras, 1871 - 1892 will become a new NSB debut era.

			Here's a listing of all 14 leagues included in version 7:

			# AL - American League (1901-Present)
			# NL - National League (1876-Present)
			# NA - National Association (1871-1875)
			# AA - American Association (1882-1891)
			# UA - Union Association (1884-1884)
			# PL - Player's League (1890-1890)
			# FL - Federal League (1914-1915)
			# NN1 - Negro National League I (1920-1931)
			# NN2 - National League II (1933-1948)
			# NAL - Negro American League (1937-1948)
			# ECL - Eastern Colored League (1923-1928)
			# NSL - Negro Southern League (1932)
			# EWL - East West League (1932)
			# ANL - American Negro League (1929)

Cslane: /* September 6th, 2021 Notes */

2021-09-07T03:50:59Z

September 6th, 2021 Notes

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	Because relatively few games were played each season, it will often be advantageous to use career stats. So I am working on introducing a career database to our system. Otherwise, it's difficult to see how most Negro leaguers could qualify for our traditional player pools.		Because relatively few games were played each season, it will often be advantageous to use career stats. So I am working on introducing a career database to our system. Otherwise, it's difficult to see how most Negro leaguers could qualify for our traditional player pools.

	The good news is that, in time, we should be able to accomplish realistic modeling for these players. What we will never know is how to assess them vis-a-vis white players of their era. But since NSB is committed to the historic game, my thinking at this point is NOT to diminish their performances by treating them like AAA or AA players. We have already ~~decided~~ on this generous course with dead ball players. That means that we can expect Negro leaguers to play competently, and sometimes excellently, alongside other players in our database.		The good news is that, in time, we should be able to accomplish realistic modeling for these players. What we will never know is how to assess them vis-a-vis white players of their era. But since NSB is committed to the historic game, my thinking at this point is NOT to diminish their performances by treating them like AAA or AA players as some other sims do. At NSB we have already started on this generous course with dead ball players. That means that we can expect Negro leaguers to play competently, and sometimes excellently, alongside other players in our database.

	As of today I am leaning toward a model of "full integration." That means that these players will appear in our traditional pools and not be treated as a special case (e.g., candidates for Auxiliary Rosters or a special waivers collection). I am considering making the BEST of them perpetual free agents. More anon.		As of today I am leaning toward a model of "full integration." That means that these players will appear in our traditional pools and not be treated as a special case (e.g., candidates for Auxiliary Rosters or a special waivers collection). I am considering making the BEST of them perpetual free agents. More anon.

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2021-09-07T03:46:55Z

September 6th, 2021 Notes

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	There are also a good many players for whom a year of birth is not known, which means that we do not know their age from season to season. In these cases the AGE field will be left blank.		There are also a good many players for whom a year of birth is not known, which means that we do not know their age from season to season. In these cases the AGE field will be left blank.

	A number of new cities have to be added to our collection. Many negro league teams played in cities never used by ~~tradition~~ MLB teams. For example, Birmingham, Little Rock, Montgomery, Harrisburg, Memphis, and Wilmington to name a few.		A number of new cities have to be added to our collection. Many negro league teams played in cities never used by traditional MLB teams. For example, Birmingham, Little Rock, Montgomery, Harrisburg, Memphis, and Wilmington to name a few.

	Schedules are HIGHLY erratic with a sometimes very large difference in games played between some teams and others.		Schedules are HIGHLY erratic with a sometimes very large difference in games played between some teams and others.
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	Because relatively few games were played each season, it will often be advantageous to use career stats. So I am working on introducing a career database to our system. Otherwise, it's difficult to see how most Negro leaguers could qualify for our traditional player pools.		Because relatively few games were played each season, it will often be advantageous to use career stats. So I am working on introducing a career database to our system. Otherwise, it's difficult to see how most Negro leaguers could qualify for our traditional player pools.

	The good news is that, in time, we should be able to accomplish realistic modeling for these players. What we will never know is how to assess them vis-a-vis white players of their era. But since NSB is committed to the historic game, my thinking at this point is NOT to diminish their performances ~~and treat~~ them like AAA or AA players. We have already decided on this course with dead ball players. That means that we can expect Negro leaguers to play competently, and sometimes excellently, alongside other players in our database.		The good news is that, in time, we should be able to accomplish realistic modeling for these players. What we will never know is how to assess them vis-a-vis white players of their era. But since NSB is committed to the historic game, my thinking at this point is NOT to diminish their performances by treating them like AAA or AA players. We have already decided on this generous course with dead ball players. That means that we can expect Negro leaguers to play competently, and sometimes excellently, alongside other players in our database.

	As of today I am leaning toward a model of "full integration." That means that these players will appear in our traditional pools and not be treated as a special case (e.g., candidates for Auxiliary Rosters or a special waivers collection). I am considering ~~make~~ the BEST of them perpetual free agents.		As of today I am leaning toward a model of "full integration." That means that these players will appear in our traditional pools and not be treated as a special case (e.g., candidates for Auxiliary Rosters or a special waivers collection). I am considering making the BEST of them perpetual free agents. More anon.